Why Microsoft Must Abandon Vista To Save Itself
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Somewhat biased article TBH.
With age comes an intolerance to many things and I regret that this is one of them. We have heard it countless times before.....the imminent demise of Microsoft. Now if you want a more realistic opinion here goes. Mircrosoft will continue to go from strength to strength taking larger slices of many sectors. They will have a number of set backs including numerous anti-trust suits, but will soldier on being the dominant force in computer software for our lifetime. At work we are about to buy a £200K ERP solution from Microsoft.....you have to be mad not to take them seriously and have a very good reason to give your shareholders why you didn't buy MS. MS will overcome the initial Vista problems and the product will go from strength to strength and will corner it's usual %age of the OS market. The replacement for it will arrive and we'll all moan and want to stick with Vista which we'll suddenly discover was the best OS ever
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Of course these views aren't controversial so would never get printed in an article
And as for OSX....lol.....never any MS style issues I am told. The last MAC update destroyed our new server's SCSI drivers....what a mess. Linux is easily the best OS technically, it's just no other booger has it.
With age comes an intolerance to many things and I regret that this is one of them. We have heard it countless times before.....the imminent demise of Microsoft. Now if you want a more realistic opinion here goes. Mircrosoft will continue to go from strength to strength taking larger slices of many sectors. They will have a number of set backs including numerous anti-trust suits, but will soldier on being the dominant force in computer software for our lifetime. At work we are about to buy a £200K ERP solution from Microsoft.....you have to be mad not to take them seriously and have a very good reason to give your shareholders why you didn't buy MS. MS will overcome the initial Vista problems and the product will go from strength to strength and will corner it's usual %age of the OS market. The replacement for it will arrive and we'll all moan and want to stick with Vista which we'll suddenly discover was the best OS ever
Of course these views aren't controversial so would never get printed in an article
And as for OSX....lol.....never any MS style issues I am told. The last MAC update destroyed our new server's SCSI drivers....what a mess. Linux is easily the best OS technically, it's just no other booger has it.
I am biased being a lifelong mac user. 
But I love my xp pc too.
My ideal solution for dtp is a new quad core G5 with stacks of ram running XP pro under parallels and osx of course.
Oh yeh, thats what I got.
I only think small Clingy because my employer does.
Linux is getting closer to being ideal for the general user with no need to touch a command line anymore and the ability to look as good as osx, vista while running on old hardware.
But I love my xp pc too.
My ideal solution for dtp is a new quad core G5 with stacks of ram running XP pro under parallels and osx of course.
Oh yeh, thats what I got.
I only think small Clingy because my employer does.
Linux is getting closer to being ideal for the general user with no need to touch a command line anymore and the ability to look as good as osx, vista while running on old hardware.
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Shadow Jax
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I agree with Clingy, I run four boxes three on XP home edition. One Linux Open SUSE and the latter Vista. I really have not got my teeth into Vista yet. But I can see some of he's points and he made the comment that Microsoft had problems with all the other up grades form windows 3.1 to XP when they first came out. So, why would Vista be any different I imagine the same thing will happen with Vista.


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It’s maybe Microsofts fault maybe 3rd parties. I’ve just gone from XP Pro to XP x64 on my box. Not really any problems, everthing seems to work so far. I haven’t even seen Vista running.
Some people are happy with Vista a lot aren’t. I’ve read about a lot of people who are having problems trying to get drivers for their hardware, from printers to mp3 players etc.
Most of these users are not tech savy. They buy a new PC and they can’t use their hardware, it worked on their old PC running XP so why doesn’t it work on their new faster PC under Vista?
Who do they blame? Microsoft of course. So they take the PC back to the high street retailer saying it doesn’t work. Some PC builders who supply Vista are putting a XP CD in with the system so the customer can use their computer!
I think Vista was released far to early. It doesn’t live up to its hype. Games run slower on it than they do on XP. Direct X10 makes even the newest hardware crawl. What’s the point? I’ll stick with XP until Vista has matured
Some people are happy with Vista a lot aren’t. I’ve read about a lot of people who are having problems trying to get drivers for their hardware, from printers to mp3 players etc.
Most of these users are not tech savy. They buy a new PC and they can’t use their hardware, it worked on their old PC running XP so why doesn’t it work on their new faster PC under Vista?
Who do they blame? Microsoft of course. So they take the PC back to the high street retailer saying it doesn’t work. Some PC builders who supply Vista are putting a XP CD in with the system so the customer can use their computer!
I think Vista was released far to early. It doesn’t live up to its hype. Games run slower on it than they do on XP. Direct X10 makes even the newest hardware crawl. What’s the point? I’ll stick with XP until Vista has matured

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*cough*Clingy wrote: Linux is easily the best OS technically, it's just no other booger has it.
I work for a largish University. We have hundreds of servers. Literally hundreds. I'd say 80% of them are Linux, 15% are Unix (Solaris) with the rest being Windows. We only have Windows servers because some app vendors only write for Windows (like the Management Console for VMware).
Our policy is to avoid Windows servers unless it absolutely impossible not too, and from the numbers above you can see that most of the time it's very easy to avoid Windows.
Out of all the servers my team manages, it's the Windows ones that are the most hassle. I installed a student email system for 20,000 students on one (!) linux server 3 years ago and I've never had to do anything to it other than apply some patches etc. That just wouldn't happen with Exchange. Not possible.
Next step we are looking at is the desktop. We're going to be taking a serious look at Linux desktops over the next couple of years.
All you IT guys - if you haven't already - start learning Linux now because you are going to need it and it makes you much more employable
Oh and never forget that You Need A Joystick™ too
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D3s3rt_F0x
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It was a Blog so pretty biased.
Although tbh Microsoft is certainly looking up imo seems to of mellowed out in its maturity unlike Apple who sue everyone and force you to run there software on there staggeringly overpriced machines that are good for well I dunno video editing and looking at pictures and admiring the case but thats not for me.
But thing with Vista is it wasnt another strap on effects and GUI it was an OS built from the bottom up from scratch unlike XP which was an upgrade of 2k and 2k which was an upgrade of ME and ME which was an upgrade of 98 etc etc. So its bound to have teething problems and while it isnt for me yet it will be in the future possibly even next rebuild I do.
In terms of drivers its up to the hardware companies to create them not microsoft.
But in terms of gaming and just general resources Vistas a new OS meant for new PC's whats the point the point in having huge amounts of computing power if the OS dosnt make use of it, but in games Direct X 10 is looking promising with it coming out with better frame rates when running the exact same game in Direct X 9 such as Bioshock which had Direct X 10 incorporated from the beginning while other games have strapped it on.
Although tbh Microsoft is certainly looking up imo seems to of mellowed out in its maturity unlike Apple who sue everyone and force you to run there software on there staggeringly overpriced machines that are good for well I dunno video editing and looking at pictures and admiring the case but thats not for me.
But thing with Vista is it wasnt another strap on effects and GUI it was an OS built from the bottom up from scratch unlike XP which was an upgrade of 2k and 2k which was an upgrade of ME and ME which was an upgrade of 98 etc etc. So its bound to have teething problems and while it isnt for me yet it will be in the future possibly even next rebuild I do.
In terms of drivers its up to the hardware companies to create them not microsoft.
But in terms of gaming and just general resources Vistas a new OS meant for new PC's whats the point the point in having huge amounts of computing power if the OS dosnt make use of it, but in games Direct X 10 is looking promising with it coming out with better frame rates when running the exact same game in Direct X 9 such as Bioshock which had Direct X 10 incorporated from the beginning while other games have strapped it on.
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